About Filsaime, The Droid, Young And Me

I don’t subscribe to many email lists anymore. The ones that I’m still on, I’m on them because they don’t pitch much and they provide me with valuable information. There’s a free email marketing tip for you 🙂

In any case, I get an email directing me to the blog to read a post. It’s an interview that Mike Young did with Mike Filsaime, talking about what Salty Droid says about Filsaime.

First, I want to congratulate Mr. Young for getting Mr. Filsaime to talk about what Salty Droid says.

I haven’t decided if I have a dog in this fight or not. In the interest of full disclosure, I will say that I’m a fan of the Droid’s and I was also a fan of Filsaime’s.

Despite the coarseness of the language, the Droid’s blog’s message to me was simply “think before you spend your money.” The Droid engages in a lot of juvenile name calling and whatnot, but I don’t see that as hate.

Maybe I’m just naive like that.

The Droid presents a dissenting view to the marketing hype. If doing that makes him a hater, then so be it.

Don’t believe the hype.

To paraphrase Jeff Walker “in a vaccum” when all you hear/ see is the marketing hype and more marketing hype you tend to believe the hype and not listen to reason. Every few weeks, the next gooroo in line has the next “bestest thing evar” to help you make money. After you buy enough of them, you start to realize the next “bestest thing evar” is really the same thing that you just bought, only repackaged and more expensive.

Until the Droid’s site came around, I never knew that they deleted threads that were not favorable to products from the Warrior Forum. I didn’t know that Rip Off Report was a “buy in” site where you can buy good reviews for a fee. I never noticed how manipulative some sales pages and videos were. Maybe these things were obvious to other people, but it was never obvious to me.

Back to the post

In the post I’m talking about, Mr. Filsaime tries to spin everything the Droid said, without actually denying anything. It’s really not a “syndicate” it’s a “mastermind group” and so on. Filsaime also talks about leaving a “legacy” and “providing value” which are things that I think everyone wants to do.

In a note directed at Jason Jones, aka “Salty Droid,” Mr. Filsaime speaks of waking up everyday trying to figure out how to “provide value.” Filsaime also gives his opinion that Jason is full of hate and wants to tear people down and whatnot. It’s also evident that Jason/ Droid hurt Filsaime’s feelings somehow. Interesting? Not really.

Through the serendipity of the “Related Posts” plugin, I was directed to a post on Mr. Filsaime’s blog where he says that “teaching people to fish is bad business.” In that post, Mr. Filsaime outlines several business models that make tons of money and “provide value.” Cited as an example are:

  • The Diet Patch – Place a patch on your arm, lose weight
  • The Diet Pill – Eat what you want, and still lose weight
  • The Roomba, cleans your house while you sleep
  • The Rotisserie Gold – Set It and Forget it –
  • Magic Cream to Remove Wrinkles
  • Re grow hair while you sleep
  • Whiten Your Teeth in 2 minutes per day

I don’t own a Roomba, nor a Rotisserie Gold, but I can safely say that those 2 products most likely deliver what they promise to a certain degree. The remaining products on the list, are bullsh#t products. There’s no such thing as a diet patch or diet pill that works. There’s no such thing as a magic cream or anything that can make hair re-grow. Talk to a dentist, to see if those whitening pastes that they sell over the counter actually work or not.

I agree that no one actually wants to do the work that it takes to lose weight (all I have to do is look in the mirror for proof of that). I agree that people prefer to buy something in a box that requires only a little bit of work rather than learning how to do the whole thing themselves. I agree that there’s good money in selling people unicorn pipe dreams and useless stuff that promises things that the product can’t possibly deliver.

My question basically is: Is it morally right to sell people a unicorn pipe dream?

I don’t think that it is.

Mr. Filsaime, no matter how much “value” you think you’re providing, what you’re selling is a unicorn pipe dream.

Most, if not all, of the products listed in the example from your blog and a lot of what I’ve seen you and your fellow syndicate friends sell, take advantage of people’s laziness, general naivete and/ or people’s unwillingness to actually do some work. Actually, I can think of several other gooroos who’s business plan totally depends on people’s laziness general naivete and/ or unwillingness to actually do some work.

I agree that you’re not holding a gun to people’s heads and making them buy anything. Yes, I understand that people can get refunds if they’re not satisfied, I get it. However, you are using manipulative techniques to sell something people want to buy, knowing full well that what you’re selling them can’t deliver on their expectations nor can what you’re selling live up to your promises.

Want proof? A few weeks after selling the “latest and greatest thing evar to make money online,” you’re willing to sell the same thing over again, but with a different name and you call that “the latest and greatest thing evar to make money online.”

Given a choice, I’d rather be financially broke than morally broke. It may be good business to sell unicorn pipe dreams, it’s just not good business.

One last thing.

Don’t try to use religious faith to try to win an argument on morality. After all, in the Bible it says that “it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God” Matthew 19:24. Think about that scripture when you’re busy trying to “deliver value” to people.


Rafael is an aviation geek, a consumer advocate, a dad, a multiple personality blogger, a photographer, politically opinionated, a videographer and many other things as well.

4 thoughts on “About Filsaime, The Droid, Young And Me

  • October 9, 2010 at 7:20 pm

    A measured response to Fleeceme’s injured pride ( and more likely to the injured bottom line he sees looming )

  • October 9, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    Great thoughts Rafael…

    … One bombshell everyone is missing out on is Mike Young now admitting Mike Filsaime was (and still is) a client of his!

    So the idea that he happened to just track down Mike Filsaime and ask him a few questions (like anyone can do this) is fraudulent, too.

    Mike Young is sheep in wolve’s clothing.

  • October 10, 2010 at 8:55 am

    I did not know that

  • October 17, 2010 at 11:38 pm

    The comments that followed where probably more enlightening than the interview itself. But then I started to wonder, with all this forum posting and blog commenting going on by all the people in the know about these goings on, just when does anybody have any time to get some real work done? Let’s just hope there is some do follow link value to be had from some of these sites. 😉

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